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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 12:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 12:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeing that pedal made me wonder about something. If different drivetrains will be used depending on where the car is, will the car have 3 pedals?
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That thought crossed my mind too. To avoid each group cutting off and welding in different clutch linkage brackets why don't we install a pedal and hyd. clutch master cylinder. Then if they want a stick they can supply their own slave cyl. or hyd throw out bearing.

That just reminded me of something. Somewhere in my stash I have a new old stock Chevy/GMC truck brake/clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder. I think mine is the reversed one that mounts under the floor facing to the rear and not the firewall mount with the clutch cylinder on the left. You used to see a lot of these on hot rods and I have been saving it for something. Maybe this is it.

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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 1:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The plan is for it to have a Powerglide automatic transmission. One has already been given to us. There are any number of adapter bellhousings available to different engines and they also serve as a torque converter shield. I think the thought was to go with an automatic transmission rather than always having to have a scatershield and always modifying the floor for shifter and the scatershield and pedal problem. GPster
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It makes sense to include a clutch pedal, and hydraulic sounds like a good idea.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 4:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The plan is for it to have a Powerglide automatic transmission. One has already been given to us. There are any number of adapter bellhousings available to different engines and they also serve as a torque converter shield. I think the thought was to go with an automatic transmission rather than always having to have a scatershield and always modifying the floor for shifter and the scatershield and pedal problem. GPster
I typically have listened to what I thought was said and gotten it wrong.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You got it right, but some people just want a stick shift to race,
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Powerglide is pretty much universal and a good idea. How would it work out at B'ville? Would we loose top end due to convertor slipage?

If we put in a clutch pedal it could either be used or not depending on the driveline of the moment. At least we would be sure it was done right initially.
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PostPosted: Tue, May 26 2009, 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

39deluxe wrote:
The Powerglide is pretty much universal and a good idea. How would it work out at B'ville? Would we loose top end due to convertor slipage?

If we put in a clutch pedal it could either be used or not depending on the driveline of the moment. At least we would be sure it was done right initially.


you can assemble a tight = low RPM stall converter.

Or switch to a converter eliminator drive device.

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PostPosted: Wed, May 27 2009, 12:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Powerglides made for oval short tracks didn't use torque converters.

Don't know if anybody is still using them.

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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going through Charlotte MI last evening I spotted a nice looking orange Crosley wagon sitting downtown. Looked to have Summit aluminum wheels ad set nice. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me. Are any of you MI guys familiar with this car?

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PostPosted: Wed, Oct 13 2010, 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Going through Charlotte MI last evening I spotted a nice looking orange Crosley wagon sitting downtown. Looked to have Summit aluminum wheels ad set nice. Too bad I didn't have my camera with me. Are any of you MI guys familiar with this car?

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It belongs to Dick LaHaie. Tube chassis, 4.3 V6 Chevy power. He built it for his wife

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PostPosted: Thu, Oct 14 2010, 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No kidding? It sure is a nice looking car. I'd like to see it up close sometime.

BTW What do we need for parts donations to the RRT Racer yet. I was going to ask Sunday when I asked about the motor plate material but got sidetracked on something or the other.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 01 2011, 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked up a mid plate that was donated to the project the other day. It is already drilled for a Chevy bolt pattern.

We still need some type of shifter for the Glide, a Nodular 9" carrier, a 35 spline spool, a pair of good axles, roll cage tubing, steering wheel, seat belts, and a fuel cell.

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PostPosted: Sat, Jan 01 2011, 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I picked up a mid plate that was donated to the project the other day. It is already drilled for a Chevy bolt pattern.

We still need some type of shifter for the Glide, a Nodular 9" carrier, a 35 spline spool, a pair of good axles, roll cage tubing, steering wheel, seat belts, and a fuel cell.


Figure you know this, but I put it out there:

I am told .... that axles and spool splines fit better if they are the same brand / manufacture.

Carrier for large 3.250 bearings will be need for spool usually with 35 spline axles.

I would buy seat belts last for better SFI date code. Maybe use some old seat belts for fab purpose?

Will fuel cell be accessible via body panel removed or a remote fill port thru body panel? How many gallons? Mount tank up front near engine? Or is that allowed per rules?

What about water tank for engine cooling?

Shifter for glide with FWD pattern is suggested. You will be next to neutral while in gear 2

just stuff to think about

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Figure you know this, but I put it out there:

I am told .... that axles and spool splines fit better if they are the same brand / manufacture


Yes, I know. Our rear will be 40" wide. I was hoping to gind some used axles that are too long, and the splines can be dealt with when shortening. Moser always wants the spool grand when cutting axles for me, so I assume they know what fits. I would not throw rocks at 31 spline parts, we could use them too.

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Carrier for large 3.250 bearings will be need for spool usually with 35 spline axles.



Yes, I know. As far as I know, there are no small bearing nodular carriers.

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I would buy seat belts last for better SFI date code. Maybe use some old seat belts for fab purpose?



If we come up with out of date belts, we can have them rewebbed when we are ready to race. Half the price or less than new belts.

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Will fuel cell be accessible via body panel removed or a remote fill port thru body panel? How many gallons? Mount tank up front near engine? Or is that allowed per rules?



The fuel cell will be in the rear of the car, with a removeable panel for access. We have to have a firewall between the tank and interior. I am thinking at least 5 gal., no more than 10 gal. We figure on mounting the battery up front, that may change though.

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What about water tank for engine cooling?


At this point, we are just setting up for drag racing. Later on we can add a water tank. It will probably be inside the car on the right side.

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I agree.

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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 02 2011, 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot about the re-web of belts pricing.

No cooling for engine at all on drag race effort?

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PostPosted: Sun, Jan 02 2011, 1:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I forgot about the re-web of belts pricing.

No cooling for engine at all on drag race effort?


Depends on the engine, and the class it's running in. Some will need a radiator, some won't.

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PostPosted: Mon, Jan 03 2011, 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found a wheel to match the one we had for the front of the car, so now we have a pair.
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I bought the rod ends for the rear suspension. I found some Chrome Moly ones on Ebay for $20 each. We are now out of money. We need more subscriptions to move forward. So far we have spent $1813.13 including the money we reinvested from sale of parts.
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