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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 27 2017, 10:00 pm    Post subject: 60 Biscayne Reply with quote

Presenting another at-work project, a 1960 Chevy. It showed up looking low, sounding mean, and in need of shine. Killer wheels not shown. It was welcomed by my co-workers with the customary wood wheel adornment. A good scrub and epoxy bath later, she came to my stall looking black naked. Thats the scene, lets see how this one turns out...














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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 27 2017, 10:17 pm    Post subject: Getting the lead out Reply with quote

So you see that yellow tape spot up by the door?



Theres a leaded repair here. Anybody's guess whats under that. Let me try a cold chisel, to show you. I hate torching sheetmetal, period.



OK OK heat gun and gloves with the same chisel. Slower than torch but no smoke and it was cold outside.





This is all it was. That crease goes farther back than what I'm about to tap out here though-



During. I used the dent puller where the qtr is boxed by the inner B post.



Here we go. Maybe more pecking later. Parts showed up so I rattle canned some etch over this-



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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 27 2017, 10:34 pm    Post subject: Around the trunk Reply with quote

I saw the pile of parts and privately urged myself to ask for a vacation. The trunk gutters weren't available for this body but we got some for another just in case, for patches. Returnable if need be, the supplier is nearby.



Onward. Heres some nitty gritty for ya-
















Not so bad but lets keep going-























Mmm-hmmm all that and a bag o' chips. Did some straightening here on the quarter and along the tail light panel. Wasn't feeling too well yet. Been kinda puny.


















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PostPosted: Mon, Feb 27 2017, 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may have noticed on the lower quarter patchwork and near the gas fill, that someone has used rivets to install some new metal. Same with the floor pans. I chopped out the right rear and had a look at what was there-




































































Did you like my pincushion pigeon poop weld there on the bottom? You guys always say I make it look easy and so nice but I gotta tell ya this was neither! But I did grind all that into submission and its not too shabby. Needs touch-up in a spot after the grind, and I'lll use an assistant to hammer and dolly the rest out. It ain't as bad as it looks and its just a floor, not a real pretty new piece. I did do what I could to even out the seam before and while while tacking the first couple rounds of dots but the gap left something to be desired. As you can see, the factory made "corners" are patched with narrow strips on the outside pair. I had to leave off here and the camera didn't want to work under the car again so... until next time, you are caught up! Cool
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 28 2017, 5:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I glanced at this after lunch and thought I might go to the vomitorium. Smile I had a thought that leads to this question. Is there any reason to think that a good repair will last any longer than the original metal? I remember seeing an ad for the new 40 Ford body and they stated that even though you repaired the old metal, the metal next to it is the same age and rusting as we speak. So does anybody have an estimate on the life of a repaired car if it's used and properly maintained?
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I hate to admit this but when we were kids my cousin had a 60 impala 2door bubble top . White with a 283 4speed that we used as a " field car " as he bought the ugly old thing for the 4 speed for his 70 Camaro . We thought it best to drive the H out of it until it blew up before taking the trans out . Only rule for a field car was , don't hit a cow .I think we made Bo and Luke Duke look like the tame cousins ! Man we were smart back then ! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 28 2017, 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kb426 wrote:
I glanced at this after lunch and thought I might go to the vomitorium. Smile I had a thought that leads to this question. Is there any reason to think that a good repair will last any longer than the original metal? I remember seeing an ad for the new 40 Ford body and they stated that even though you repaired the old metal, the metal next to it is the same age and rusting as we speak.
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Gee KB .. i was going to tell you to look at any late model Chevy Truck ..... Confused But then I remembered ...You guys don't have those issues like we do..... A lot of the guys up here will install patch panels / cab corners / etc ....Epoxy prime & the paint the lower 10" of the truck with bedliner ....It seems to last longer than "Gravel Guard" paint you normally put on rockers & such ... It usually buys you an extra year or 2 ....
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 28 2017, 8:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kb426 wrote:
I glanced at this after lunch and thought I might go to the vomitorium. Smile I had a thought that leads to this question. Is there any reason to think that a good repair will last any longer than the original metal? I remember seeing an ad for the new 40 Ford body and they stated that even though you repaired the old metal, the metal next to it is the same age and rusting as we speak. So does anybody have an estimate on the life of a repaired car if it's used and properly maintained?


I detect regurgitory overtones Laughing Meet me down at the Vom-A-Rama and we'll have a go at some targets Idea Wink Eat up!Very Happy

My thought on longevity is that during their first life, few of these rides saw indoor parking. After a loving restoration, few will be parked outdoors ever again. Stuff we have fixed and painted rarely gets wet, generally speaking. Thus far, my preaching about Rust Fighter has fallen on deaf ears for the most part. That being said...

Automotive refinish paint is designed for a 5-7 year lifespan. We all know it can go way beyond that just like yours and my bodywork does.

In my observations, rust slows to a creep in a dry garage even on a daily driver. Parking over grass with no cover wildly accelerates rot.

These builds I post about ought to look the same for ten years and beyond, used sensibly and garaged. But how long until they have stuff popping up, that was skipped on purpose or missed? Cm'on, man... it depends on how bad the car was. Honestly I think if you get five years of whatever usage you desire out of it, the products have done their duties.

Some of the fixed up cars will probably still be very nice when the sale of new fossil fueled vehicles is banned. Picture astronomical gas prices by the time I'm too old to work. The guy who turns out real world driveable rod body friendly electric (or whatever) powertrain swaps will win, and that could perpetuate the pursuit of cool old cars long enough to find out how many licks it takes to get to the tootsie roll center without a beak. Idea
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PostPosted: Tue, Feb 28 2017, 8:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

chimp koose wrote:
I hate to admit this but when we were kids my cousin had a 60 impala 2door bubble top . White with a 283 4speed that we used as a " field car " as he bought the ugly old thing for the 4 speed for his 70 Camaro . We thought it best to drive the H out of it until it blew up before taking the trans out . Only rule for a field car was , don't hit a cow .I think we made Bo and Luke Duke look like the tame cousins ! Man we were smart back then ! Embarassed Embarassed Embarassed


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kb426 wrote:
I glanced at this after lunch and thought I might go to the vomitorium. Smile I had a thought that leads to this question. Is there any reason to think that a good repair will last any longer than the original metal? I remember seeing an ad for the new 40 Ford body and they stated that even though you repaired the old metal, the metal next to it is the same age and rusting as we speak.
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So does anybody have an estimate on the life of a repaired car if it's used and properly maintained?


Gee KB .. i was going to tell you to look at any late model Chevy Truck ..... Confused But then I remembered ...You guys don't have those issues like we do..... A lot of the guys up here will install patch panels / cab corners / etc ....Epoxy prime & the paint the lower 10" of the truck with bedliner ....It seems to last longer than "Gravel Guard" paint you normally put on rockers & such ... It usually buys you an extra year or 2 ....
Shocked Rolling Eyes

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The rust you guys encounter just a few hundred miles north blows my mind. Jabbing a pencil through ten year old cars just ain't something I could live around. Shocked
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Spent a grand total of one hour on the Biz this week Rolling Eyes but the bolt on parts are back from blasting so shall we? Lets. I see more adventure than a Jonny Quest episode coming. Arrow For the record, next time I used the welder after that floor mess, I discovered that the knobs had been bumped and the heat and wire were both wrong a little. I'll try to do better on the next piece since I feel better now. Rust barfs can be rough on an old bodyman. Embarassed Laughing Idea Arrow







Your turn, KB. Glug and pass it for dent barfys. Very Happy Last man to go gets that last piece of pie in the fridge. Shocked













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Matt, I'll take dents over rust most always. As long as I have clean metal, I'm happy. ( for a crazy, anyway) Smile
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Fortunately thats a clean dent, and the dent pulling rig is healthy. Its the difference between "You're kidding, right? " and "Well maybe..." on a panel such as that door... without it I would not be very confident about dealing with such a monster dent.

Also luckily, it isn't perforated with pull rod holes. But theres some serious stretch there. Shocked Wonder how thick the goo is inside the door skin. Reckon I'll find out.

Unfortunate (to this crazy) is that I'm realizing poor ol Bryan (broke leg, bodyman, out since October) probably just won't be back. I reckon sometimes reality soaks in slow. He and I both have tried to keep thinking he'll be back, and perhaps that has helped us both get through the past few months with less crazy. I still tend to want to believe, but oh man that foot / ankle was wiped out. How can I get time off between these big jobs? The world may never know but it makes for extra wear and tear on an IDJ, going straight through back to back. That I do know! Smile The Biscayne project is going to require gumption.
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The 59 through mid 60's are very large cars. I suppose that means large problems. Smile The only observation I can offer is that from the work I see, your shop is very well respected. To be part of that is surely an accomplishment. Smile Most all of us understand being a man short on the team. Smile
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Hey Matt .. This may sound crazy , (Do you expect any less from me Question ), but could the injured man come back & do "light duty" things during re-hab Question He still has all the knowledge that he did before, he just can't walk as much ...Since my "vertically challenged" issues started up , I can still do most of what I did before .... Confused It just takes longer , I need to sit for most any operation, I wobble a LOT & people say that I'm LOTS more fun to watch.. Rolling Eyes Embarassed Confused Shocked Laughing

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Bob, my thoughts exactly. There's plenty to be done while seated, lots of parts on stands and such. I've just not heard from or had a response from him in a couple weeks. So thoughts wander. Asked Mike if he thought Bryan will be back and without hesitation he said no. The thought crossed my mind so I was curious if everyone else was thinking different. If I had to generate an in between scenario... I would say that during this time our man is going through a very challenging rehab process. Last I heard, he did not have doctor's permission to try and stand on it until last week. I could tell he had no interest in working from a wheelchair. I have always said to him wait until you're ready to return. But it may be smarter to try another kind of work instead. It's real tough finding a good guy for his position. Seriously. I just hope it's OK and works out for him. Hope is not gone but I am weary that's all. Our newest guy doesn't do metal work but has been cruising through the filler and primer stuff.
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Well I did get an update today on that recovery situation. Instead of being allowed to put weight on the leg last week, it was decided to wait three more weeks. The persistent pain level has them looking at nerves now. Nifffty.

Took all day but I turned that floor pan mess into something I can claim. I may have to extend the pan on the other side or something because the topside of the existing floor is so pitted. From the looks of it the rust doesn't stop though. The car will never be rustproof but it will at least have welded-in floor sections.







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Bryan showed up to visit today! Had a look at the loose foot myself and got all caught up. He has already had a scary fall on crutches and his woman does OK supporting them so he is wanting to reach a point of at least being able to stand on it before coming back. The pain has been improving and is more manageable as he goes along. I know I feel better haha. Boss asked him if he drove here then asked him to hold a sander but he saw through that Wink

On the Biz... I've started taking dents and rust out on the fenders, in order to facilitate the flow of work for the whole shop. Might be a little while until I go back on the 60 body because that TA is also waiting. Sure was encouraging to see my fellow bodyman.
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Various dents, starting with the left fender. More and more I find myself using two dollies, one as a hammer. For a broader striking surface-






Did not get you a pic of the front of this before a little surgery-









Turns out there was a couple dents just above that, in the area boxed by the inner brace. Had to use the dent puller a little on those.






Getting started on the bigger dent on this other fender. It has considerably more rust as well. A gob of asphalt stuck to the lip there on both fenders but the other didn't rust through for whatever reason.













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